Cousin Mars posts typically go up on the last Friday of the month but got pushed back a little last week because of Triple B’s 3rd Anniversary celebration! This is a touchy one, y’all. I look forward to reading your feedback (whether you agree or disagree) in the comments.
Ultimatums in romantic relationships are often joked about. In fact, many people in my circle have been on the receiving end. As I get older (not old, just older) I find more and more associates sharing stories of some pretty bold ultimatums. These have ranged from cohabitating, marriage, having children and a myriad of others. As recent as two weeks ago, while interviewing for a Triple B post last week, I was told about an ultimatum that led to a proposal.
As usual — in my world at least — this ultimatum was given by the female. Funny thing is what I heard immediately after being told about the ultimatum. In fact, what I heard immediately after has been told to me several times from a few people. Enough suspense? Several men that have shared some sort of relationship ultimatum with me have also shared with me that they needed (and kind of wanted) the push provided with the ultimatum. Having been in multiple serious relationships, sometime overlapping (don’t judge me), I understood when these guys shared that they received welcomed ultimatums.
For many men, the wife selection process is a layered one. I don’t want to give too much away, but I guess I must share some classified G14 information (Rush Hour joke) in order for you to follow me. One of the early steps/layers in the process is accepting that you are considering spending a long time with someone. I don’t know why, but we rarely say forever this early in the process. I guess “a long time” isn’t as permanent and intimidating. Unfortunately for some women, after men recognize that we are in fact able to be with someone for a long time we can drag our feet for a while. Men often fall victim to buying into the theory that we are going to miss out on whatever may be next. This has caused many men to miss out on great women. We fool ourselves into thinking that we are able to keep a woman happy enough not to leave, but still keep ourselves in the running for the unicorn like (meaning non-existent) perfect next one. It is only during this stage that guys secretly appreciate that ultimatum. Primarily because we know that the bird in hand is exactly what we want, but continue to use that bush as reason for procrastination.
When a relationship ultimatum comes at the right time, it provides a desired nudge. Once nudged, we often go full steam ahead. I often laugh when speaking with women that have given these ultimatums. Almost without fail the women say or imply that they should have given the ultimatum(s) sooner. I laugh only because I know that timing is everything in this case. In fact, jumping the gun too early on this one can leave a woman eating ice cream on a Friday night while listening to old school R&B and wearing granny panties. My apologies…painted too clear of a picture, right?
So, although extremely risky…ultimatums can work. Good luck!
Hmmm. I, along with most women I know, always thought that giving a boyfriend an ultimatum about marriage was a sure-fire way to do one of two things 1) make him run for the hills OR 2) get a “shut-up” ring. Neither of those scenerios is usually the goal. I have to admit this post is an eye-opener. I still think that letting things take their course naturally is more my style but maybe a not-so friendly nudge can work too. I’m now happily engaged but maybe I could have eliminated a lot of angst had I given my fiance an ultimatum? Hindsight is always 20/20. I think our story played out the way it was suppose to but the biggest factor (that you did address) is TIMING! Timing is EVERYTHING in relationships…
@Future Mrs. R – YES to the “shut-up” ring! LOL. There can be an entire post written on those… Ooh wee. The one thing I think we can all agree on is that timing is indeed everything when it comes to relationships.
I don’t think I ever expected to get advice on ultimatums from a male. Bigger than that, I don’t think I would have ever considered valuing a male’s advice on the subject. I don’t know if would tell any ladies to try this just yet, but I can say I’M LISTENING.
I LOVED today’s post on ultimatums! But Mars please know that we women get them too. Mine was “have a baby or else.” And the pressure got unreasonable once I turned 35. He’d leave clips on my desk from magazine articles with details of how many eggs I had left, and there were constant reminders like “There’s only a short window of time left to do this.” But the final straw was “stop what you’re doing and just have the baby, I’ll do everything else. My salary can more than handle everything. You can get back to your little business later.”
LITTLE BUSINESS? Boy, bye. You will not punk me or my ovaries. Lol.
Very good point Cousin Mars! I agree that sometimes an ultimatum is necessary, especially with older men and/or if it is a long term relationship. But, in putting it out there, one has to be prepared to follow through with either scenario, i.e. you actually get married or you move on from the relationship.
I’m not used to being here on Monday, but this isn’t too bad.
@Zenobia – Yup, an ultimatum holds zero weight if you aren’t going to follow through.
@Anonymous – I get one day a month (FINAL FRIDAYS) to represent for the deep voices…I know you ladies get ultimatums also, but until Bridgette gives me more time, I’m addressing the male’s pov. (just joking) Valid point. Thanks for raising this one.
@Erica – Glad I have your attention. KEEP LISTENING & tell a friend to listen as well.
@Bridgette & Mrs. R. – Wait! What? You ladies know about SHUT UP RINGS? lol
Ultimatums are very risky. Depending on the personality of the recipient, it could get not so attractive (that’s my attempt at being diplomatic). I have always resented and resisted ultimatums, often to my detriment. Sigh, I guess I have some growing to do. I appreciate dialogue and even negotiation but not ultimatums. Guess that’s why my Fridays are … It’s a good thing I love ice cream, old school R&B and boy shorts. LOL!
Another job well done. I am often a bit surprised by your opinion – but this time I’m straight shocked. I don’t know if most males would appreciate an ultimatum. Trust me, I want to believe you. #still waiting.
Keep the feedback coming, folks!
@SD – LMBO!
Love this article but, stop tellen’ secrets Mars! The United Federation of Men are watching you… -LOL Women mature faster than men, why? We men often need a push, nudge, or motivation (ultimatum??) to achieve our goals. Don’t believe me? Ask Steve Harvey. He laughed himself all the way to the bank writing a groundbreaking best selling book and acclaimed movie encouraging women to do exactly that.
If my wife didn’t “motivate” me to get engaged, married, have our first child, and have our second child, I would have dragged my feet and delayed these monumental and most pleasant experiences of my life. Thanks Dana!
It may be true but I think it’s sad. If you like/love someone, why push them to the point of being willing to leave you unless a certain action happens. We all need to grow up and make moves for progress together rather than waiting until our backs are against one wall or another.
I think we can do better…
cousin mars: draggin’ your feet, indeed! now I really believe that you and the rest of the guys (out there in guyland) believe that you don’t know why you drag your feet. but you know why you drag your feet (drum roll in order here): too easily available sex and even the alot-less-than-realized promise of sex, is the reason men “drag their feet” as they consider “popping the question.”
if sex was less available (including real time and reel time, or in magazines), men would get marred in a minute. but since we are lured so often and so easily, we are less inclined to think we need to make any kind of commitment.
women think of building a relationship (children, business, etc.) and men think of–you guessed it–SEX.
the impressions (20th century soul artists promised a “change was gonna come” and asked that “people get ready…”
we must still be gettin’ ready.